Rant Where do we go from here?

[FartmingerFuckwadCheesest]

Physical media is dead outside of collection value and faux nostalgia of young people; i.e., vinyls more than cassettes and CDs in Japan.
Leaving streaming and other digital means (pirating) to be the predominant way of consuming music, this, however, comes with its own consequences, though, as it upheaves the old industry model and flips it on its head. This applies to television and movies as well, but this is a thread about music, so shut up.
But the biggest change overall is that you forge your own individual tastes now; you are not a part of a collective culture anymore, and you are able to freely decide for yourself what you like, from whatever era you like. The monoculture is dead and is likely to remain dead for the foreseeable future.
This is both a really good thing, but it has some really negative consequences, like the death of proper indie culture and subcultures.
You need a sense of collectivism for both pop and alt culture to exist; individuality leaves everything weak and splintered with no way of gaining any big traction unless by a fluke, say through a social campaign or internet meme or of course, TikTok, like with Barbenheimer or Morbius or Charli XCX's album 'Brat'.
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Indie culture and subcultures act as a way to push music forward, the greatest method of innovation within the past sixty years, so without it, what the fuck do you do now?
This question has perplexed me for quite some time, because I often feel lost when trying to assess the current state of the music industry and the birth of potential new subcultures. It also doesn't help that a lot of zoomers (no fault of their own) have been brainwashed into a drunk love for a faux version of the past with superficial and shallow obsessions with "Y2K", "Frutiger Aero", and other bullshit.
Meaning, we're likely only going to get nostalgiabait retreads of previous genres, genres that haven't been popular in twenty years like Haddaway-era Europop or trance music, instead of actual subcultures that drive the medium forward.
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TL;DR I think it's over, the robots killed music, o algo.

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[Hillel Hartmann]

You need a sense of collectivism for both pop and alt culture to exist; individuality leaves everything weak and splintered with no way of gaining any big traction unless by a fluke
Indie culture and subcultures act as a way to push music forward, the greatest method of innovation within the past sixty years

news to me, kinda interesting

genres that haven't been popular in twenty years like [...] Europop or trance music

margee I thought these were popular
I transheart trance music it makes me feel cute
am I out of touch

 

[reaepseoene unofficial]

>magree

 

[Father Elijah]

Physical media is dead outside of collection value and faux nostalgia of young people; i.e., vinyls more than cassettes and CDs in Japan.
Leaving streaming and other digital means (pirating) to be the predominant way of consuming music, this, however, comes with its own consequences, though, as it upheaves the old industry model and flips it on its head. This applies to television and movies as well, but this is a thread about music, so shut up.
But the biggest change overall is that you forge your own individual tastes now; you are not a part of a collective culture anymore, and you are able to freely decide for yourself what you like, from whatever era you like. The monoculture is dead and is likely to remain dead for the foreseeable future.
This is both a really good thing, but it has some really negative consequences, like the death of proper indie culture and subcultures.
You need a sense of collectivism for both pop and alt culture to exist; individuality leaves everything weak and splintered with no way of gaining any big traction unless by a fluke, say through a social campaign or internet meme or of course, TikTok, like with Barbenheimer or Morbius or Charli XCX's album 'Brat'.
<[pleb placement here]
Indie culture and subcultures act as a way to push music forward, the greatest method of innovation within the past sixty years, so without it, what the fuck do you do now?
This question has perplexed me for quite some time, because I often feel lost when trying to assess the current state of the music industry and the birth of potential new subcultures. It also doesn't help that a lot of zoomers (no fault of their own) have been brainwashed into a drunk love for a faux version of the past with superficial and shallow obsessions with "Y2K", "Frutiger Aero", and other bullshit.
Meaning, we're likely only going to get nostalgiabait retreads of previous genres, genres that haven't been popular in twenty years like Haddaway-era Europop or trance music, instead of actual subcultures that drive the medium forward.
<[pleb placement here]
TL;DR I think it's over, the robots killed music, o algo.

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Indie culture is still being pushed forward. A greater amount of people are now exposed to indie music so the incentive for people to put out more indie stuff is at an all time high. Some of you shit on spotigoy (I do too), but the discover playlist has been berry helpful to someone like me. I've always been comfortable listening to 90's metal and 00's j-core but that playlist got me into black/prog/thrash/power metal, rap, ambient, and a bunch of other genres I would have never touched. A lot of the artists are <1k listens as well so I know I'd probably never have known they existed otherwise. There will never be another Aeroplane over the Sea or Exmilitary, but I think thats a privilege of being born in the time that zoomers will just have to seethe over until I die.

 

[FartmingerFuckwadCheesest]

margee I thought these were popular
I transheart trance music it makes me feel cute
am I out of touch

The only Europop I've seen is the nostalgiabait revitalization of it during Eurovision and shit like that.
Trance is gaining traction again, as are a few other genres from the '90s like Shoegaze, Grunge, Britpop, and a few others I'm forgetting, but that's to be expected if you follow the rule of the thirty year cycle.

Indie culture is still being pushed forward. A greater amount of people are now exposed to indie music so the incentive for people to put out more indie stuff is at an all time high.

I don't entirely disagree with this, because there is a plethora of new albums being put out if you go to websites like Bandcamp, AOTY, and RYM; of so many different genres as well, but they're all doing their own thing, and quite a bit of the current guitar indie scene (if it isn't Post-Punk shit from England) is a form of """Shoegaze""" or lo-fi.
It just feels a lot more splintered nowadays than it was a decade ago. It made sense that you would occasionally have a band dabbling in '60s pop, then another doing '80s-inspired synthpop, and then a neo-psychedelic group, and all of them having releases in 2014.

What is the indie culture if it's so splintered nowadays? How can any of these indie bands gain traction if they don't follow any of the big subculture sounds, if there are any? That was my point. There are a lot of indie releases, of course, but it's so splintered nowadays that there's no sense of a collective or contemporary sound outside of the thirty-year cycle rehashes.

A lot of the artists are <1k listens as well so I know I'd probably never have known they existed otherwise.

And artists that only you and a few others will only know the existence of until the end of time, never gaining steam, and eventually breaking up because they can't justify being in a band to support themselves anymore, with their only hope being that a track of theirs blows up on Youtube, TikTok, or elsewhere.

I've always been comfortable listening to 90's metal and 00's j-core but that playlist got me into black/prog/thrash/power metal, rap, ambient, and a bunch of other genres I would have never touched.

Yes. Everyone has their own individualistic, diverse taste instead of belonging to a specific subculture or group, or being an expert in a specific genre of music that belonged to a specific subculture. This has been the case for a long time, of course, but more so now than ever, and it's more of a good thing than a bad thing, but that does come with long-term, negative consequences.

 

[Apeson]

the internet killed the video star o algo

 

[Mongoloigul]

Data hoarding